PvP Rules Clarification

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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Korwin » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:15 pm

I think this particular point is one of those that have been very clearly stated and are very reasonable. If PC A warns PC B that PvP might happen and PC B then takes that opportunity to cease its offenses and leave the scene, PC A has no right at all to pursue or show up at another time with a surprise killing of, attempted killing of , or otherwise hostile intent against PC B.
You missed the point. I warned someone several times! Told them that if they did EXACTLY what they ended up doing I would rip the flesh from their muscle then reduce them to a pile of smoldering bones, they agreed IC. Then refused PKILL OOC.

Plain common sense. No argue required its in black and white. I give people more then enough respect with my evil characters, but life and FK has consequences.
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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Korwin » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:13 am

I do think that the taking of One item as an option should be reconsidered. In tabletop, you kill something....loot all the shiny....but this is not tabletop. People take pride in their items and gear, many which are unique and many have taken hundreds of hours to get a single one. I believe this would reduce the stress many have over being slain by another PC. Still for thieves stealing items though.
In my opinion the only item that should be taken in a Pkill would be a holy symbol.
Respect and consideration goes much farther then a bunch of situational rules in which there will always be disputes and exceptions.
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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Rycird » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:25 am

Korwin wrote:I do think that the taking of One item as an option should be reconsidered. In tabletop, you kill something....loot all the shiny....but this is not tabletop. People take pride in their items and gear, many which are unique and many have taken hundreds of hours to get a single one. I believe this would reduce the stress many have over being slain by another PC. Still for thieves stealing items though.
In my opinion the only item that should be taken in a Pkill would be a holy symbol.
Respect and consideration goes much farther then a bunch of situational rules in which there will always be disputes and exceptions.
Cheers.
Don't Clerics require that symbol to cast? That's just like taking a single weapon Warrior's best weapon away from them, but worse in most ways.

Personally, if they stole from you, you notice and you're chaotic evil, they should expect confrontation without any chance to say, out of character, "I'm not fine with retribution."

Alignment dictates your character's standing views on a lot of things. It's not a permanent personality thing that IC actions can't change, but really, if you're handing out dozens of platinum just because you're rich as a chaotic evil character, you're doing it wrong. I can understand being nice to new faces initially because you could manipulate them or have them join you, though, as that's part of constructive evil RP.

Additionally, I'm against being able to hide behind OOC rules when it's blatantly obvious to you that your actions will cause a fight and potentially your death. It's extremely obvious that if you steal from a mountain orc and he notices something missing, finds you looking at it and recognizes it, that you're going to fight, likely to the death.
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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Yemin » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:59 am

To clarify for Ryc, there are many sources of holy symbols that clerics can use. So its not as big of a deal as it seems. Whether they employ those others depends on how restrictive their RP is.
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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Korwin » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:57 am

Yes, taking holy symbols is probably the most common item theft from a Pkill, and is encouraged and rewarded by many gods/goddesses.
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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Areia » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:20 am

Korwin wrote: You missed the point. I warned someone several times! Told them that if they did EXACTLY what they ended up doing I would rip the flesh from their muscle then reduce them to a pile of smoldering bones, they agreed IC. Then refused PKILL OOC.
Ah, gotcha. Sorry! :)
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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Gwain » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:26 am

Personally I think its terrible form to take a character's symbol off their remains because I think the symbol is the most potent item of faith on their person and therefore the one likeliest to be protected by divine intervention. But that is my personal opinion on that matter. Its probably not a big issue since you need to give all parties you loot a good chance of recovering their items as per the rules.
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Re: PvP Rules Clarification

Post by Korwin » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:06 am

Good point Gwain.
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